DoT EP71: Matt Leslie, Writer/Producer of Summer of ’84, plus New Comedy from Jo Firestone

I was lucky enough to see Summer of ’84 a few weeks ago in Salem, Massachusetts, not far from where Matt Leslie grew up in Ipswich. I had not heard of the film before, but it was sponsored by the Salem Horror Fest, and I trust the tastes of the folks who run that, so I went into it with no hype, knowing virtually nothing about it. I greatly enjoyed the film. It has the same vibe as movies I enjoyed, oddly enough, as a teenager in the mid-eighties like The Lost Boys or The Goonies.

Davey, a suburban teenager, thinks his neighbor, Mackey, might be a serial killer. One night when he’s out playing a game with his three best friends, Davey happens to see a kid in Mackey’s kitchen. That gets Davey’s conspiracy theorist mind working. Kids have been going missing lately, and when the next one looks like the kid he saw through Mackey’s window, Davey is convinced. But who would believe him? Mackey is a cop and by all outward appearances, the perfect suburban neighbor. Naturally, the only people he can turn to are his friends – the nerdy Farraday, rebel Tommy, and the good-natured big kid, Woody.

The first and possibly most important thing that got my attention is how natural the kids seemed together. This kind of movie lives and dies by the chemistry of its cast, and that worked for me. So did Rich Sommer from Wet Hot American Summer, Mad Men, and GLOW, who plays the neighbor, Wayne Mackey. He has to be likable enough to cast doubt on Davey’s theory and creepy enough that Davey doesn’t seem insane, and Sommer walks that line well, into the third act when things change dramatically. The major story arc was well-plotted, providing just enough doubt to keep the mystery going.

Leslie co-wrote the script with Stephen J. Smith and also served as a producer. We kept the conversation mainly spoiler-free for the first half, but there were some elements we needs to dive into, so if you haven’t seen the film and want to avoid spoilers, stop when I mention that in the conversation and please do come back and finish after you’ve seen it.

Look for Summer of 84 streaming on Amazon Prime and Vudu or pick it up on BluRay now. You can find out more about Leslie’s work, as well as Smiths, at

The featured track this week is “Social Stuff,” from Jo Firetone’s new stand-up album, The Hits, out now on Comedy Central Records. It’s a fun album, a live recording that includes occasional, seemingly spontaneous musical interludes from Arcade Fire’s Will Butler. Firestone has a gentle demeanor that belies a sharper wit and a constant agitation over dealing with the outside world, which is what this track is all about. It’s the minor tragedies of social interactions, from farting in an elevator to saying dumb thing in public. My favorite line in this is the frustrated, “I don’t know how to get smarter, you could read, but, I mean, who cares?” Firestone is a staff writer on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon and hosts the Dr. Gameshow podcast on the Earwolf network. You can find out more about her at or follow her on Twitter at @kingfirestorm

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